All Rights Reserved. Give me some fairways! Thanks for this opportunity. I think 60 gram weight and regular flex would be better for me. It seems like you loved both (although the reviews are a couple years apart). The Fujikura Ventus Blue Stiff This shaft has a stiff tip for evading you from twisting it. As always, your results may vary, but its nice to be able to play more loft, hit it a bit straighter, and still have the distance. If you like the hzrdus black feel i would think you could even go up a flex in the ventus if youd like, or heavily tip. Thanks again. But I would love to test a 6X. Ventus was the most played driver and wood shaft on the PGA TOUR during the 2020-21 season. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Yesterday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. tks. I love to try a 50 gram regular flex in my driver. Anything youd compare the feel or profile of the mid offering? TheVentus blue isnt really a blue profile in that sense Ive read premium but not for me for sure. The lightest version has 5.0, 5.5, and 6.0 flexes. Matt lives in the northwest suburbs of Chicago with his wife and two daughters. The aftermarket version says VeloCore near the tip. Tight dispersion, low spinsign me up! Comparing the iM10 to the Alta CB, the iM10 will probably feel a little stiffer and lower torque. I have it on my Mavrik 12 degree driver and Epic Flash 3 wood. It did take some getting used to when I first hit it on the range but eventually it clicked and I love this shaft. B2 VENTUS BLUE 5B1 Diamana PD50 The ball launched on a noticeably lower trajectory with a penetrating flight. Same with me in regards to liking blue profiles, I love the tensei blue. In fact, the spin was so low I sometimes dropped below optimal. As a high launcher, this sounds like a great shaft for me. I started thinking every blueboard profile i have owned has been 75+grams, which i think those heavier weight classes, the handle and even mid gets more stable. It just never misses. Barry M. Reno, NV. I am not familiar with the Project X HZRDUS IM10 Smoke shafts. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Yesterday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. Free shipping for many products! Can one shaft possibly confer all those advantages? Display as a link instead, Great review Matt, sounds like every one should be using this shaft. (All Butt Cut) and added weight to get it back to D2. EI Profiles show that the tip of the Ventus is slightly stiffer than the ATMOS Black. At any rate, I have a fitting next week so well see if its even the best match for me! So, yes, same ballpark, but not quite synonymous. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! You cannot paste images directly. I found the Ventus to be lower launcing and stiffer feeling. FOR NON-URGENT MATTERS, SEND US A MESSAGE: Click on the blue "Support" button at the bottom right corner of the site to send us an e-mail. I would love to try to 60gram regular for a Ping g410 Lst driver. As I noted above, the feel was a very pleasant surprise. Translation: more ball speed and more distance. I am playing a Fujikura Pro 2.0 but would love to see if a Ventus would help even more with my dispersion. The Evo II is truly my unicorn shaft and Ive yet to find anything that could top it in my driver (HZRDUS Black, Rogue Silver 110, Tensi CK White, and recently the HZRDUS Smoke Green). Ventus Blue (R2, R, S, X) With a mid-launch and low spin, the Blue profile sits firmly in the middle of the Ventus lineup. Id like to win the model 60 (65 grams) shaft in the R Flex. 1 My bag is a revolving door!Just a note: I'm currently testing the Hzrdus Smoke yellow 6.0 vs my TS3 gamer Ventus Blue Velocore 6s, from what i'm seeing on the indoor simulator the HZRDUS launching slightly . My expectation is that the Air Speeder will be much more lively than the Ventus. Its dark navy color is interrupted only by the silver branding in the upper half of the shaft and the small VeloCore symbol near the tip. I can go for Stiff 60! Titleist TSR3 3W 15*, Tensei 1K Black 75X Yes, Id love more distance, but what I need is to play fewer shots from the trees. I had so many pages open on my iPad I must have got confused. Upload or insert images from URL. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 8 X. Pls, can someone explain to me why on the callaway line up they offer the project x smoke im 10 6.0 with a 60 g weight 3.7 torque and the specs of the same shaft in the web of project x is 66 g ? The idea of CB shafts is so that you can have a heavier headweight and still maintain a desirable swingweight. My dispersion was much tighter than normal perhaps the best Ive ever had for a review and two things in particular stood out. Yeah I tried the blue 6x and while it was clear right off that it was a premium shaft,just did not like the softer handle, felt like I had no control personally for my swing, Agree, same here but whats weird is i have always like blueboard type profilesand never got that soft handle sensation like the ventus blue gave me. Thanks again for all you are doing!!! They are quite different fundamentally but do share a soft midsection with stiffened ends. The Speeder was first introduced in 1995. Who doesnt want faster ball speeds and down the middle of the fairway. Wonder how its stacks up to my Evo IV or Evo V? Additionally, the ball didnt want to bend much in either direction. No, I dont. I was able to turn over the iM10 Mid pretty easily, but I found myself hitting more cuts with it because I was making more relaxed swings. I would choose the Ventus 8, Extra Stiff Thanks, Great review. Youll see its not dissimilar to the Ventus. Would love a shot at this one in a 60gm. Cobra Aerojet LS 10.5* - AD TP 6TX/Aerojet LS 3 - Kaili White 7X /SZ Tour 5 - AD TP 8X /Apex 21 4H - AD IZ 95X /Cobra Tour 5-P KBS Tour V X /RTX6 50M, 56F - KBS 610S / 60M KBS Hi Rev 2.0 S/Tri Hot 5K DW CH /Bridgestone BX. Watch this video of Fujikuras employees explaining the benefits of Ventus, and youll quickly understand that theyre not holding back with the claims of what this shaft can do. Id like to try it in a 60 Regular flex. Have always played an 8.5-9.5 driver. 60 gram stiff. Firm mid section and low launch, low spin is the norm for more control. I do like the shaft just want to try something different. In the butt section, the Ventus is a little softer than the ATMOS Black and Speeder Evolution IV which leads to a slightly smoother feel. HZRDUS Blue RDX Smoke: Stock Shaft vs Aftermarket Shaft Freddie Meikle Golf 1.5K views 1 month ago High Launch Low Spin Shaft? Id love a 70g, x-stiff shaft! I love Fujikura driver shafts. Awesome review! Great review! I did not get the ventus tipped but Im assuming the smoke green is since I got it directly from taylormade,hoping I dont regret not getting ventus tipped as its already been butt cut. I recently purchased the Ventus 6x ,65gram shaft and put it into Ping G 400 LST. Great review. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Introduced in this new lineup is the Project X HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX shaft. Probably a stiff 60, but would want to test for sure. I would love to have one of these in a 6-S. Id really be interested to put this shaft to the test. Living in Seattle area offers no way to get tested with Ventus shafts that I am aware of. As is typical of Fujikuras Speeder shafts, there isnt a big kick but rather a smooth energy transfer from your hands through the shaft. Introduction The last expansion of the HZRDUS family was the RDX models [review HERE] which leveraged Hexcel's HexTow carbon fiber for more strength and consistency. The Project X HZRDUS Smoke iM10 shaft comes in two flavors: low spin and mid spin. Despite being members of the same family, the two iM10 shafts are very different when it comes to feel. Would love to mate the 60S with my M-5, and leave the loft at 10.5 degrees. Great Review on what sounds to be an amazing shaft. I have the smoke rdx in my Cobra F8 and is curious which one would fit best to my other driver. Canberra Australia. Nickname scratch but with psoriatic arthritis, disc disease , after 4 spine surgeries , 2 fusions, having itchy skin is the closest Ill get to scratch at age 67. Very Good Good . Great information. I have the opportunity to keep it or the shaft off of my original driver, Fujikura Ventus 6R. Keep up the good work. 5 Testers Needed! They tested several prototypes and found that if they softened the flex a little and added more torque for feel and a slightly softer tip, they kept the mid launch mid spin profile but average golfers hit it much better than the stronger aftermarket Matrix Red. My swing speed is down a bit (shoulder trouble), but my smash factor was as consistently high as its ever been. Great write up. Your email address will not be published. Epic Speed 3 Wood, Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.5, 80g Mavrik SZ 5 Wood 18*, Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0, 80g X Forged UT 21*, Hzrdus Black Handcrafted 6.0, 85g Apex Pro '21 Irons 4-PW, MMT 105 TX Jaws 50*, 54*, 60* MMT 105 TX Eleven white hot Putter Tour BX ball or Chrome Soft X LS Paste as plain text instead, TM Stealth2 Plus - 9* head only with headcover, Thinning the herd: DeWiz and Putters (Toulon Portland, Odyssey 5K, Ping Tyne 4, Kevin Burns, Scotty H20). I average 108ss and would be interested to see if I could get away with a stiff. I am thinking the 70 Stiff would be perfect for me. If DJ switched from the Speeder, I probably should too.70G, stiff is what the golf gods would order. https://pluggedingolf.com/graphite-design-tour-ad-vr-shaft-review/, https://pluggedingolf.com/fujikura-speeder-evolution-v-shaft-review/, https://pluggedingolf.com/mitsubishi-tensei-white-shaft-review/. slightly but it's essentially a coin flip- it's just impressive however that the two I'd say are neck and neck w/ Ventus blue and black and at half the . Would love to know the numbers if you did. By The ventus 6x definitely flew in a lower window for me compared to the ef blue Titleist TSR3 9*, Tensei 1K Black 65X In terms of dispersion, the iM10 Low will give you exactly what your swing deserves. November 18, 2021 at 03:44 PM. Oh, while youre at it can you slip on one of those new Epic Flash driver heads too? Thanks for the question. I am really happy with my TENSEI Orange CK Pro in my TS3 3w. Calloway UW 19 Ventus black 7s Velocore, no headcover. If you havent found a HZRDUS that you like in the past, check out the iM10 Mid. For players that have always loved HZRDUS, the iM10 Low will be an attractive choice. This sounds like a very interesting new offering from Fujikura. Thanks for the opportunity. 66 years old and I need to gain some distance back. Id love to try this shaft!! Its a great shaft. Really searching for a solid shaft to improve my game. It is great for a low-mid and simple low launch. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! been playing a fujikura fuel pro 65 stiff at 47 in. It reduces SW up to 6 points and unlike other CB shafts it has a std butt diameter of .600 vs the .615-.630 often with CB shafts. Display as a link instead, Your email address will not be published. Epic Max LS 9* Ventus Black 6s / Cobra Radspeed 9* Tensei 1K 6x, What I've observed with Counterbalanced shafts is that for me, they lead me to lean the handle back and add dynamic loft and spin. Cobra King F7 14.5 3 Wood Graphite Fujikura Pro 65 Shaft Mens Rh Stiff. For shafts, it would be great if you mentioned price. Want to ask if this profile compares at all to the Tour AD DI in the same weight class? I wonder if I could combine the Ventus with a 10.5 driverand possibly get better results? If I was lucky enough to win, I would like 60 stiff, Looks like a fantastic shaft. I'm playing a 65 Five. I've hit them in TX setups. Both deliver on their promised ball flight. So the moral is, especially when talking about high end, expensive shafts.. try and go get a fitting with your preferred golf ball. Yeah, Ventus black in stiff flex with no tipping may be a good comparison to the HZDUS Black 6.0. Can you compare it to the Project X Even flow Black in stiff , I believe , the Black is a lower launching shaft ,and low spinning , i was asking more about feel ??? 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos. How would you say that the iM10 Mid compares to the Tensei AV Blue in regards to feel/launch and spin? But 1 question, How can a shaft help center contact? Clinton. Among the benefits they list are more centered contact, faster ball speed, and tightened dispersion. I like the Smoke, but it feels a little loose so I traded in my 6.0 and got a 6.5. Clear editor. Great info on this nice looking shaft put out by Fujikura. You can post now and register later. The shaft sounds really interesting. Are you referring to the iM10 Mid or Low? Testing the latest addition to the Project X HZDRUS line of shafts! I would love to try the Ventus in 6S. How do you identify an authentic Ventus shaft. Your link has been automatically embedded. Matt, Thanks for any thing you may offer. Length Standard. I would love to try a mid-60 gram shaft, stiff flex. Thanks for the info. Upload or insert images from URL. On 2/20/2021 at 5:44 PM, golfgolfguru said: Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. I do think the Ventus is a fine FW option, if its fit for the player. Hzrdus Smoke Green im/10 60 gram Stiff mid. Youve got my interested piqued where do you live that youre 300 miles from a fitter? Counterbalanced and the unique flex profile were a bit more than I was willing to figure out. I demoed this shaft at Golf MD in Olathe KS, spin reducer as you stated. Im looking into getting a strong 3 wood or mini driver and the Taylormade Im considering has this shaft in it. Woz I was wondering if you tried the Atmos Blue TS and if yes, how does it compare to the Ventus Blue? The balance felt incredible and it had an effortless load without losing control. It would be awesome to try out the 50 gram Regular in my Rogue! Would love to hear what people like about these shafts. Performance I noted that in your review for the Smoke Black, that it had been confirmed that the OEM version was identical to the shaft bought separately. The stock shaft in the TM drivers does not have Velocore. TM Stealth2 Plus - 9* head only with headcover, Thinning the herd: DeWiz and Putters (Toulon Portland, Odyssey 5K, Ping Tyne 4, Kevin Burns, Scotty H20). By Anything for some dispersion tightening. From what I see, lower spin, tighter dispersion and more distance !!! (262 CPM) / I am now looking for a new driver head that matches this shaft. $296.99 Close. I have hit the VA composites Nemesys ( which is counter balanced)in my Mavrik SZ. Would love to try the 50 gram regular shaft! You can post now and register later. The smoke black always felt harsh and brittle to me. The following two tabs change content below. While the tip and butt are firm, I felt a substantial kick in the midsection . Feel is stout but not too boardy, looking for something a touch more active and slightly higher launch. I felt like I made terrible swings or good swings with the black and just went straight. Ventus will be smoother for sure. I would give the Hzrdus Smoke Yellow a close look. Id like the 6 S and middle of the fairway, thank you! Hzrdus Smoke Green vs. Black Two of the most popular options within the Hzrdus Smoke range are the Green and Black shafts. Who has hit both and can compare? I have a full review of the Tensei White here: https://pluggedingolf.com/mitsubishi-tensei-white-shaft-review/. For me, the Ventus is definitely requiring some lofting up because the spin is SO LOW. I typically fit into the 60 gram range, and right on the edge of stiff/x So 60s would be my choice. Thanks! I did find out through my club fitter that the X shaft is actually a step above stiff . Im a mid handicapper thats been playing for a couple years now. Thanks for the giveaway! APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! Sign up for our weekly newsletter and not only will you get the latest reviews, instruction, and more delivered directly to your inbox, youll also be entered into regular giveaways for golf clubs, PGA Tour passes, and more. like many others I am very intrigued to match this up against my current driver shaft, MSA Tensei CK Blue. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! It also found favor with boutique club fitters and as an in-line custom option through equipment brands. 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