Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. They apparently are TOO BUSY to take care of their paying customers. I enjoyed the review. Everyone should own at least one M1A. In my living room. Learn the 3 most popular shooting stances & more. Its the rifles first major ergonomic faux pas; good luck finding and operating the small release under stress. (without magazine) Sights: Iron with rail Stock: Plastic Action: Bolt Finish: Black, gray or green Capacity: 5+1 rounds Price: $1,699. The Springfields 18 barrel is an excellent combination of barrel length and handiness. The M8/T-1 combo is sweet! In todays world of impersonal, all Picatinny-rail covered, AR-based clones, this gun is a true beauty. Kind of blew my mind that CA liberal idiots scream about ARs but never utter a peep about this much more powerful monster. The short barrel is threaded so it can accept standard AR muzzle devices (Standard A2 flash hider is included) as well as a suppressor if so desired. I recommend you just get one from Fulton Armory or LRB rifles and not a POS SA "socom".. Basically, it shoots a powerful round, 7.62 NATO/.308 Win., a very long way. It is nice to shoot. Im an avid shooter and love educating whether its at my job or in the shooting community. Springfield M1A Scout Squad 308 with Walnut Stock (NY Compliant) $2,026.00 $1,999.99. Does anyone know whrere one might obtain a Winter Trigger Guead? Was wondering if you might do a review of the training facility school and/or if youve taken any other classes? A good quality, compact scout scope on the M1A Scouts factory mount will provide a clear sight picturethat doesnt require a chin weld to see the crosshairs. So how can they be one of the most popular and respected battle rifles in history? Where is the rifle made? The M1A Super Match model is an upgraded version of the National Match model. Overall Length: 38.6 in. The M14-style rifle has a reciprocating charging handle on the right (ejection) side that's simply an extension of . I am kinda leaning towards the EO-Tech 1 moa dot, thay also have reticle-dot combo. I put it in a S.R.S.S. I absolutely love this rifle. Can anybody tell me how far out a scout squad is accurate? Springfield Armory M1A Rifles The Springfield Standard M1A is well-suited for a day at the range, competition or hanging on your wall in front of an American flag. Thanks, H20 Man, for the info and the pic. Otherwise this is a turd design as is the Scout concept anyway. Springfield also upgraded the sights, offering a .125-inch post front sight with a tritium insert and a .135-inch ghost ring aperture rear sight with MOA adjustment for both windage and elevation. It failed to extract. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Just like a woman who prefers her pistols to be a .45, if a girl is bringing an M1A, you know she means business. The polymer stock has a backup 5-round magazine in the buttstock. I dont want to say they all hated the M16A1 but they all had these terrific battle rifles taken out of their hands and replaced by the 16s. Added an SEI castle nut adapter to allow me to mount a Battle Comp compensator. This particular rifle seemed to like the Federal a bit more with an average group size at 100 yards of 1.25-1.4. Joe, He also said that if he could only have one rifle itd have to be a .30 caliber M1 type rifle, I figured as a Vietnam vet and career Army man of 30 years he probably knew what he was talking about. Just make sure instructions are left how to care for it, kids these days, hope my grandson enjoys it as much as i do one day. I own a Polytech M14 type rifle with an 18 inch barrel. Loved the trigger. A good scout scope would be a worthwhile indulgence. Not to mention the rifle can be purchased with or without a Vortex Venom red dot sight and Springfield Armory clip guide red dot mount. All in, it keeps your optic pretty low. It is the ultimate National Match shooting machine for longer ranges, with superior accuracy out to 750. For this rifle, I decided to look for a medium-range scope and plan on using shooting bags until I can switch out the front sling swivel to include a mount for a bipod. Rear Sight: Military Aperture, Adjustable for Windage and Elevation (barrel warp). Other than the length and muzzle device, the Scout Squad models barrel is the same as that of the Standard Issue model made from 6-groove parkerized carbon steel and with a 1:11 right hand twist. Overall Length: 40.33 in. Id probably skip the scout scope and just put real glass on a decent scope mount. Throughout my testing, I decided to put up two boxes of Federal 175gr Sierra MatchKing Boat Tail Hollow Points along with a box of Hornady 178gr Boat Tail Hollow Points. Just sayin. It still holds a 5 round group at 200 yds you can lay your hand over. My thoughts at this point are as follows: Guaranteed. Since the auther mentioned it, IF hew did get one, where did he get one? But thats enough about similarities. After basic I went to AIT in recon, I was issued a M16, it sure was different than the M14. I opted for the full size M1A from Springfield, trading a bit of convenience for distance. For accuracy testing, I picked up a few different 308 match rounds to see how the M1A grouped at 100 and 300 yards. .308 WIN 6.5 CREED MSRP $1,938 - $2,104 Hellcat Micro-compact Handguns I decided to get a more traditional style scope since thats what I prefer. The shorter barrel also takes a half-pound off of the rifles overall weight, reducing it 8.8-pounds. M1A Standard Model. ZERO regrets too. I trained with the M16A2 in the Marines in the early 90s, have played with many of the M-4geries over the years. Designed to work with OEM magazine spring. The Springfield M1A Scout Squad has an eighteen inch 1:11 right-hand six-groove carbon steel barrel. I took it deer hunting in August. I took what was already wonderful rifle changed it up. Ive taken mule deer and antelope with it and all have been one-shot DRT. When I complained via email, the company didnt even bother to reply. Manipulating a four-year-old into eating her vegetables would have been easier. Hard to pass up on the Standard issue rifle. Springfield ~ M1A Loaded ~ .7.62 NATO GI#: 102228493 I dropped a little on the accuracy with the steel, but I only had one fail to fire. Like other scout rifles, the Savage 11 Scout is a bolt action with a forward-mounted optics rail, backup iron ghost ring sights, and a synthetic stock. A rifleman can use the combination to press out a shot with minimal effort. Firing it in full auto was a little iffy, hard to keep on target, but it was a lot of fun. It also brings a standard AR-style commercial buffer tube, allowing you to switch out the stock for just about any AR-compatible stock. it would be the Scout Squad hands down. I like a Leatherwood LER2732. Save my name and email to use for future comments. The national match has a match grade aperture hooded .0595 with 1/2 MOA for both windage and elevation. I had lots of M14s on the USS Flint and they worked well to say the least. I have not seen them below that for a long time and they are not frequently sold used anyway. Savage adds a cheek riser to the stock for improved comfort, a detachable box magazine with 10-round capacity, and a muzzle brake, along with three sling swivel points. So we are in total agreement. Im sure theres more..somewhere. Finally, the M1A SOCOM 16 CQB model is an even more tactical take on the M1A SOCOM 16 model. In regards to the higher scope mount, people (generally) get better accuracy out of a rifle with a higher mounted scope. Springfield Armory offers a number of models of the M1A from the 16-inch Taker models all the way up to the 22 Loaded models. MSRP for the synthetic M1A Scout Squad Rifle is $1,883. My next will be M14s from LRB, Smith and Fulton. I've always been a fan of the M14 and its civilian variants. The Hornady 178gr averaged 1.5 at 100 which is still respectable for an older rifle design. Caliber: 7.62x51mm NATO (.308 WIN) You'll now receive newsletters of our best articles on techniques, The M1A is considered a high-end, thoroughly tested, reliable and stable platform for larger caliber rifle shooting. parts until Springfield Armory, Inc. began manufacturing their own. If I decide to stick with an IER scope, I'll likely choose the Burris Scout Scope or one of their pistol scopes with the Ballistic Plex reticle. But thats not surprising given that the M14 is a direct descendent of the M1 Garand. Springfield Armory. Weight: 7.8 lbs. This particular model doesnt have a match barrel so I was happy with its performance with an out-of-the-box factory barrel. During cold weather or (again) stress, this design requires rigorous trigger discipline. You know that M1A is not a reg Scout. One drawback of extended eye relief scopes is that they lack the full magnification of larger rearward-mounted optics. The shooters trigger finger has to be inside the trigger guard and in front of the trigger to take the rifle off of safety. This model also comes with a standard flash suppressor. I like the M-4, too. Vietnam saw M1 Garands and M14s before the M16 came out, both used quite effectively. Savage Scout $675.00 Guns.com Savage Scout .450 $682.98 Palmetto Armory, SPECIFICATIONS: Savage 11 Scout Caliber: .308 Win. In fact, its one of our favorite .308 rifles as well as one of our recommended rifles for 3-Gun heavy metal competition. Until around the late 1990s, the M1A produced by Springfield Armory retained the cutout in the rear . Well I have certainly learned my own lesson by dealing with Springfield Armory. The standard has a military aperture open .069 with MOA for windage and elevation. Every model uses AISI 8620 alloy steel receiver (though early models were made from blank surplus M14 receivers) and are able to fit in the same stocks. The major difference between the M1A and the M14 is the selector switch. M1A Standard Issue Rifles The Standard Issue M1A is a faithful semi-auto recreation of the original M14. towards your level. I may earn a small part of the sale from links to any products or services on this site. I qualified with a M-14 in 1967 and spent 2 years living with Mattel Toys-R Us for the rest of my short career in the Marine Corps. Good review. I have an M1A Scout Squad, which I purchased new in 2009. Shooting both rifles side by side, theres a significant difference in overall felt recoil and muzzle rise. The Scout Squad solidly mounted optics rail sits forward of the action. Learn how your comment data is processed. Ive since set it up as a retro sniper/DMR of the Vietnam-era to include a Sadlak Airborne steel mount with a Redfield 3X9 fixed scope. The Scout model is very handy. Savage 111 left hand bolt action .30-06 w/ Nikon 3-9x40 BDC scope. Mounted flip up iron sights and an EOtech XPS with a flip to side 3x magnifier, and a grip pod fore grip. And I say that about the M1A scout size being ok, even though Im kinda sensitive to carrying around too much weight because I always get winded very easily and often times find myself wheezing and gasping for breath if I do anything too physically exerting. I personally like a medium height on my scout rifles, but with the M1A, low rings do the trick. Thanks for the review. I bought an aluminum hand-guard from Leepers to mount a pistol scope on the barrel. I also have the Smith brake on it. Now I realize this cost can be daunting especially if you find yourself in love with guns like these, but even though it seems quite expensive, I do honestly think it is justified given the craftsmanship and quality you receive. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_. When I bought mine about a year ago it was still legal in California. The M1A Standard from Springfield is a reproduction of that classic M14 rifle retrofitted for civilian use. The M1A feels similar to both the M14 and the M1 Garand. M1A Magazines. Nice rifles, I have several. I bought a Springfield M1A about 2 years ago and Im sorry to say I have yet to fire it, I plan to this summer. If you have the money buy this rifle, it is fun to shoot and will be great hand me down to grandsons. There are, however, a few important differences: Selector switch cutout in M1A stock manufactured in 1997 Early M1A receivers were made from surplus M14 receiver blanks, current M1A receivers are made from precision investment cast AISI 8620 alloy steel. On top of its excellent round choice, the M1A has a reputation for being a highly reliable, accurate rifle popular among 3-Gun, National Match, and other competition shooters. The M1A Tanker model offers a 16.25-inch parkerized carbon steel barrel and a vintage walnut stock. We investigate Springfield Armory's M1A models and rundown the pros and cons of each model to help you choose the M1A that's right for you. Youre either a spoiled millennial or a certified A-hole. I have many large-bore rifles from .22-250 to .375 H&H to .45-120 Sharps, and though not quite suitable for Africa, if I could only have one, the Springfield Armory Scout-Squad might very well be it. There are many rifles that fit Coopers criteria but then he added one very distinctive feature a forward-mounted magnified optic with extended eye relief. Wouldnt the round be better with a longer barrel? .308 WIN MSRP $1,770 - $1,875 M1A Loaded Rifles A traditional M1A, loaded with all the features you want to take your rifle to the next level. But yeah, if you have the $$$, go Fulton or LRB. Chambered in 308 WIN or 6.5 Creedmoor, the M1A series includes the SOCUM, Scout Squad, Standard Issue, Loaded, National Match, and Super Match, all delivering the military-grade performance you require in hunting or sport shooting engagements. Captain John will review the $1800 ArmaLite AR-10 next week. Would rather have a real M14 scout from a real M14 builder but there is no need for carpenters anymore so I will keep my Garand, as money aint happenin right now or even in the future for me. Its a bad economy, but if I wanted to sell my 2 year old Scout tomorrow I could have 1300.00 for it within 3 days. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. Of course, there are newer AR10 variants that offer easier controls and more capacity, but is the M1A still a real contender in the battle rifle market? A standard M1A Scout from SA would probably be fine for about 80% of the shooting population out there. (like toting around a heavy rifle all day on a deer or hog hunting trip with potential clients) Although Im almost ashamed to admit it since Im only in my mid 30s, I already have symptoms of early onset emphysema as a result of almost twenty years of heavy chainsmoking (at least 2 to 3 packs a day since I was in my teens, I know its an awful addiction, I tried to quit but never could). (and i doubt if old Joe could even put a 240B to his shoulder) Further more, the M1-Garand is by far the most respected battle rifle in history (Next to the AK-47), and i must point out that the M14 is a perfected M1-Garand. The M1A Scout Squads sights rock. The rifle was developed in conjunction with the Gunsite Academy and features their name engraved on the receiver. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I settled on a Vortex Optics Viper PST GEN II 3-1544 optic with the EBR-7C MRAD reticle to mount on the Scout Squad for this review. I have called SA Customer service no less than 5 times over the years (including recently during the middle of a retirement party they were having for one of their old-timers) and they have always been courteous, helpful, and, well just very very nice! 4. Just the satisfaction of working with a highly-evolved tool that does its job with deadly accuracy and dependable reliability. I have fired 2 rounds out of my m1a and love it already. Whoa, This sounds like my kinda gal, .45s and M1As! The longer length top Picatinny rail allows for more expansive options for optics while the backup iron ghost ring sights include a front fiber optic for improved visibility. Oh, and it offers an AK-style pistol grip that can also be switched out for just about any standard AK-style pistol grip. M1As are one of the most popular and respected battle rifles in history. I was issued an M14, I can say it was a great rifle. Early M1A rifles were built with surplus G.I. I found a "standard" model for $1800 flat but was wondering if anyone knew of anyone online shops who might or have the scout model available/or may In the future. It is only available in one size and one caliber. I am presently putting together a functional spec for an M1A Scout Squad rifle. Most like the M14 and M1 Garand, its the model of choice for M1A purists. For the M1A shooter, the .30 caliber BOOM is immensely satisfying. I gotta say. Its more gun than anyone human needs as is. Though its never reached the same level of popularity as the AR-15, the M1A still has a rather large and very devoted group of fans despite the M14s less than stellar reputation, earned during its service in Vietnam. The medium bbl prevents many standard m1A or m14 accessories. I was for five years and carried an M14 everyday during one of my tours in Iraq. Looking for opinions! The Standard comes chambered .308 . Reliability * * * * Sounds like someone has an anger issue;) Back to the review though, I absolutely LOVE this rifle and would never sell it (although many have asked). Really it was an awesome post. Even on the lowest rings, a red dot optic still requires a cheekpiece to maintain a proper cheek weld. Great review! Weight: 6.6 lbs. A fully adjustable rear military aperture teams up with a crisp front sight post. I had to sell mine a few months ago for some cash, but I miss it every weekend on the range. If you go the scope route, dont scrimp on your glass. Im just thinking that a short barrel with a lot of powder behind a powerful bullet, 18 inches might not be enough to push that round to its potential. Nothing like throwing your body into prone at 200 yards. Without that correction, the guns ultra-stiff safety made for an extremely tender trigger finger. The M1A Standard Issue model measures 44.33-inches in overall length and weighs 9.3-pounds. Hows that working? A good quality LER scope will enable confident precision and snap shots. The recoil was so soft from this M1A that I was fairly sure I was just shooting another AR-style rifle in a smaller caliber. M1A 15-Round Magazine - 7.62x51mm NATO (.308 WIN) / 6.5 Creedmoor. So theyre jerks because they didnt want to sell you a buttplate for $20 which would have prevented them from selling a new rifle for $1,400? Overall Length: 37.5 in. 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