Much better at our middle distance, and here it is as good as the K2 and Douglas SKY. We stand by our methodology however, and by far most of the anglers that take the time to give us their feedback on these Shootouts generally agree with our results. Both of these lines utilize a slightly longer rear taper that allows superior mending ability as well as enhancing the ability to make medium to longer casts. Click on any of the charts above to see more charts. The softer tip on the Imperial gave me good scores at the both 25 and 40 feet, and also led to a good score in light tippet protection. Both the newWinston PUREandOrvis HELIOS 3F put in impressive performances, securing podium finishes. The shorter rod is nice and light, and faster in action than its longer brother. Here is a new rod that has not appeared in any of our previous Shootouts. 2. In the past we have used the Scientific Anglers lines since they shoot better and hold up longer than any other line we have found. This rod wore me out casting long. Hardy is using their best Sintrix 440 graphite in this rod, also used in the Zephrus. When I first picked the rod up, the overall weight was good but then when I wiggled the rod in my hand, I could see that the swing weight was heavier than almost all of the other 4-weight rods. To get a 10, repair charges had to be $35 or less with a quick turn around time of less than two weeks. We're here to help. Power: 5/10 - The Shadow has some reserve power that can be taken advantage of by anglers who are in tune with their timing and casting stroke. #26. #15. Pick any rod here that we rated a 9.5 or better and you have a winner! The result feels impressively crisp and light, so it lets experts hit new benchmarks and welcomes newbies with a forgiving sweet spot. If you are thinking about buying a fly rod, we suggest reading one of our Shootouts for the line size rod you want. I wish that we could have tested an 86 Aetos, but this rod is only available in an 8 foot #4. A contrasting dark composite cork ring is used at the top of the grip. The guides start with a hook keeper, and then one relatively small silver SiC stripping guide, followed with hard chrome single-foot guides. T&T designed this rod to cater to the widest range of anglers and its versatility shows through in its power and action levels. For sure, one of the worst in our Shootout. Well come out with you and give you some help to fine tune your casting stroke, or just help you with the basics. When Im fishing dry flies Ill use a 12-foot leader most of the time as this keeps the fly line farther away from the fish, minimizing the number of fish you spook while casting. Here it feels as good as the Scott rods and the Helios 3F.Performance at 60 feet: 9.0 points out of 10. These rods are designed in Sweden, but built in Korea in the same factory that produces the fine Hardy rods. The IMX Pro is one of Loomis newest rods and we have liked it in the larger line sizes, like their 5 and 6 weight rods. If you are looking for that perfect saltwater outfit, then use ourFavorite Saltwater Outfitslink. We felt the 86 Helios 3F was the best rod to test since the 3D is available only in a 9-foot model. If you own a money tree and enough real estate to warehouse dozens of situation-specific fly rods, stop reading now. The Pure is a brand new rod from Winston. Im impressed with the guide set up, starting with a hook keeper, then one SiC stripping guide, followed with the best nickel/titanium and flexible single-foot guides as on the Zephrus and Sky. The Douglas Sky was both heavier and stiffer, and didnt perform as well, except out long at 60 feet. He used Gartside's Super-Secret Stuff as a flash material but here we will use Hareline's Ice Wing Fiber as a substitute. The feel Im getting is not that good either. If you've done any fly fishing reading online you've probably seen the words 'shootout', 'buyer's guide', and 'review' a lot. Nice and light in hand with very good feel and accuracy in close. This is a very pleasant rod to cast, with a medium fast action. Howard is a great angler and knew just what he wanted for the perfect 4-weight. 5. This 86#4, however, is just too heavy and too stiff to perform well as a 4-weight. Im having trouble casting off the tip well and this is hurting the accuracy. The rest of the guides are their terrific nickel/titanium single foot guides that are light and flexible but will never break. Forty feet was definitely the sweet spot for this rod. Picking the best 4-weight rod We see fly rods getting better each year, and today it is often only subtle differences that separate one rod from another. Nice tight loops and good control. The heavy swing weight and stiffer tip gave me very little feel. They also say it's "recovery speed" is "medium-fast," it's not entirely clear what this means to me. Here's an example from Echo's website. In close, I could not cast off the tip of the Ultralite nearly as well as with the Zephrus. Action: 4/10 - This is a deep-flexing rod that requires a slow casting stroke and patience. For guides, they use one SiC stripping guide followed with hard chrome snake guides that are thin and light on the tip sections. Take tricky undulating currents, and then add in a little wind, and getting a fly right in the fishs window with that drag-free drift becomes quite the challenging task. Only out long did I feel at a disadvantage to the best rods and I think part of this was due to the lighter Trout line. I was getting decent feel in close but accuracy was not that great. Wraps are a darker red, (almost black), trimmed in brighter red on the butt. We also kept on hand, and compared, what we felt was the very best rod the Hardy Zephrus. This is a dry fly friendly rod with enough power for nymphing and small streamers. Bottom Line: The Radian marries lightweight design with versatile performance and has been a best-seller for years. Heres a mid-priced rod that put in a good performance across the board. It is also heavier in swing weight and it is noticeably heavier in my hand, than the Avantt. At short range I like to cast off the tip of the rod, using mostly my wrist and little arm movement to power the tip of the rod through the stroke. He wanted another 4-weight that was very accurate and delicate, yet one that had more power in the butt and mid-section. Rating: 100%. Now Im getting nice tight loops and I can punch it hard into the breeze. The guides start out with a small hook keeper, then a single SiC stripper, followed with black, hard chrome single-foot guides. Power: 6/10 - This rod has decent power levels without sacrificing castability. A sliding band and one easy to grip locking ring are used. No handling fee. Line Recommendation: RIO Gold Premier Fly Line. A Bonnier LLC Company. The lower ring uses a thin nylon spacer that helps it lock up securely to the upper ring. The cork handle is a western style grip with a flare on the lower end to accept the uplocking seat, and a nice taper forward providing a very comfortable grip. Good butt power also helps me land fish in a minimal amount of time. Now were talking! The cosmetics and components of this rod are similar to its shorter brother. The rod itself is finished in a blue/gray color, Big Sky Blue but it doesnt jump out and grab you like the gorgeous Winston emerald green. Rods that flex in the tip are fast action rods, rods that flex in the mid-section are moderate action rods, and so on. I could really notice the heavy swing weight in my hand. Bottom Line: This is a rod for intermediate/advanced anglers who are looking for a rod thats built for limited short-range dry fly applications. Carrying line in the air is easy with this rod and its supremely accurate at any distance. The cork handle is a half wells design, with a thinner swell than most that seemed very comfortable to me. Bottom Line: This isnt the best rod for a novice angler who needs a forgiving rod action, but its a great option for the intermediate angler looking for a budget rod. Casting and rating the performance of rods at the different distances is the real meat of our Shootouts. This is not a pleasant rod to do a lot of false casting with, as you would fishing dry flies. #28. Usually takes 1-2 weeks. It is nearly impossible to cast off the tip of the rod like I can with the best 4-weights. We kept the best rod in each category, high priced, medium priced, and inexpensive category handy for comparison. The 4-weight Asquith was one of the stiffer rods in our Shootout and this hurt its scores at the shortest distance of 25 feet. It tracked well and the accuracy was good better than the Imperial at long range. A nice piece of dark hardwood is used for the spacer. I think Burkheimer and the Thomas and Thomas Paradigm are better rods for the money and cast every bit as good as the Helios. Heavy, slower action rods never perform well. 2 Reviews. This is the best way to examine the action of each rod the faster action rods have tips that bend more, with stiffer butt and mid sections, while the more medium action rods will have softer butt and mid sections and stiffer tips. Once again we give you a Performance Only chart, which zeros in on the very best performing rods, which is the real meat of our Shootout. The heavy swing weight is perhaps the biggest reason the SKY didnt perform so well. Both offer terrific performance at half the price of the best rods in our Shootout. Even with the lighter Trout line, it is hard to maintain good loops and get any kind of decent accuracy. Hardy ZEPHRUS ULTRALITE 89 #4 $679.95. Im not getting much feel either. Long distance was hopeless. The casting scores were only fair to good, and in my notes I say that I am getting very little feel or accuracy in close compared to the best rods. However at long range, it had no guts, and was one of the worst in our Shootout. If you do a lot of nymph fishing, the extra length will help, and this rod has enough butt and mid-section power to also chuck some smaller streamers. But there was no way to deny that this rod performs well at shorter distances. With the Infinity it cast better long, and I would have scored it closer to 9 at long range. Better as I get more line in the air, but still not nearly as good as the NRX LP or the DXF. Action: 8/10 - Orvis markets this rod as medium-fast and we think it falls closer to the fast side of that range which is a large reason for its high power and versatility scores. The action is slightly slower than the Zephrus though, and this contributed somewhat to its lack of feel and accuracy at 25 feet. Only you can make that decision. Temple Fork Outfitters (TFO) Lifetime warranty to original owner. Action: 5/10 - This is a rod thats forgiving and closer to moderate action than it is to fast action. I also like the alignment dots. The stiff tip and heavy swing weight both contributed to a lack of feel and accuracy in close. The guides start with a hook keeper, and then one huge stripping guide that looks way too big, followed with thin wire hard chrome snake guides. Im getting nicely controlled loops and good presentations. The ability of this rod to track precisely combined with its ability to form beautiful tight loops allowed it to perform almost as well as the best rods at long range. The wide single ring was easy to grip and tighten. Only one way to find out cast and compare them all. Mystic Reaper X 86 #4 $299.00. Then the dark green finish just sparkles. The insert is a gorgeous piece of bamboo, sourced from the same company that uses it for Lexus steering wheels. About as good as the Imperial, but the Recon and Shadow were noticeably better. Guides start with a hook keeper, then two SiC stripping guides followed with fairly large diameter hard chrome snake guides. The handle is Winstons familiar cigar grip, a half wells with a little flare on the bottom end to accept the uplocking seat. Sure, the best rods are generally in the higher price bracket, and are usually worth spending the extra dough, even if you have to save up to buy the one you really want. The Hardy Shadow that tied for 4thplace sells for only $350.00. Scott uses a stack of thinner cork rings on this handle and the quality was excellent. Power: 8.5/10 - Higher power levels make this rod a great choice in wind or large water. Performance at 60 feet: 7.5 points out of 10. No other rods were as good. I really expected to see this new G Series 4-weight challenge the best rods. 5wt fly rods are (by far) the most popular rod model in contemporary fly fishing. The handle is a comfortable full wells design, and the quality of the cork was very good. (tie) R.L. Carbon XL. It has a sliding band and single locking ring that seems to lock up well enough but squeaks a little as you tighten it. This is a very smooth rod to cast and Im getting nice tight loops and good accuracy. One of the things I really like is the shape of the full wells cork handle. The cork handle is a half wells western style grip, with a contrasting darker composite cork at the bottom end, over the flare for the reel seat. Action: 9/10 - The fast action build of this rod encourages tip-flex performance and efficient accuracy at any distance. Im convinced that the key to catching more trout, (and especially larger trout), is casting accuracy. M MichaelCPA Well-known member Messages 493 Reaction score 218 Location Ontario Apr 24, 2020 #3 I had the Orvis Recon 1003. What gives? If you look at the best performing rods in general, they have stiffer butt and midsections and softer tips. My first nymph stick that is all around rock solid. This rod gave me better control and accuracy at long range than any other rod in our Shootout. Power: 7.5/10 - This was the second-highest power score awarded in the low-priced category. Performance at 40 feet 20 points available. Action: 8.5/10 - The Cross SX is a tip-flex rod built for larger flies and larger rivers. The other reason is that this 9 #4 SKY is just too stiff for a 4-weight. Copyright 2023 Sport Fishing Magazine. Use this link to go to ourFavorite Freshwater Outfitsfor the 3 through 8-weight rods, in our Online Store. The quality of cork was excellent. Just about any rod can turn over a 9-foot leader, but only the best casting rods can turn over a 12 footer at short distances. 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