Suspicious as Hell if you ask me. The motive is likely to be a lot sicker than that. Rozzi rhetorically asked. DELPHI, Ind. Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. However, here is my argument for him as the BG: He does resemble the man in the video, particularly the short lower leg area. "Secrecy of judicial action can only breed ignorance and distrust of courts and suspicion concerning the competence and impartiality of judges, attorneys for the media wrote, citing a Nebraska case. " (T)he media accounts concerning this cause have contained an undue number of statements relating no only to the progress of the investigation, but conclusions of the investigation, some of which have been untrue.". I've read somewhere a few different times (only via rumor and not fact obviously and my apologies as I can't even remember where I read this, only that I definitely read it somewhere) that one of the girls' was left in a propped -up position against a tree. The motion to seal was improper because it lacked verification a sworn oath under penalty of perjury, Rozzi said. The blunt nose and mouth/smile, as well as the shading. Our group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far. - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!! Who were they? Delphi has a park dedicated to the teens, called the Abby and Libby Memorial Park, honoring their love for sports and the outdoors. Delphi was revenge for Flora. Scarf around neck. The girls were reported missing to police at 5:30 pm. Could it be that subconsciously people remember not so much the trees but what was dangling from them as they tell what they saw? wishtv.com your home page, Business, Equity and Opportunities Podcast with Scott Sander, Myles Colvin captivates Heritage Christian crowds, preps for Purdue, Indiana wildlife expert on bald eagle killing: Its sad, IMPD policy on seized guns called into question, Indiana governor grants clemency to prisoner with inoperable brain tumor, 2 tornadoes confirmed in northern Hancock County. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. We cannot publicly convict someone based on a single document which was not released by investigators. Ive always said that I would be screaming on the rooftop. If he isnt the BG, he has some macabre fascination with the murder. I was just listening to a podcast episode about the Evansdale murders, and I noticed something: 1) both sets of girls were abducted off a recreational trail, and at a point where they were blocked on both sides (in Delphi by the height of the bridge, in Evansdale by chain link fences on either side), and 2) in both cases the girls were killed and/or dumped at a local hunting ground. (WISH) People in Delphi say the community is far from closure despite an arrest announcement in the 2017 murders of two girls, Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby . Nearly two years passed before authorities released a second composite sketch in April 2019, this one in stark contrast to the first, which they said more accurately depicted the killer, the Indianapolis Star reported. She said police hadn't contacted her about the search but had been for other significant developments. "My office, me, felt it was important to seal those records," McLeland said. Either LE or coroner: It was all over by 3:30 PM.. OR he passed the girls and tried to speak to them and was rebuffed by Libby which made him angry, and he then began to stalk them. I dont see anyone refuting these claims besides the people on the internet who werent there and want to believe every single last syllable LE says. Hi Robert. A search party found Libby and Abby's bodies along the Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east of the Monon High Bridge. Would that indicate they (Abby and Libby) were put there after the search was called off? The public has an absolute right to the information, but at what cost? McLeland said. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. And thats not even the start of the weirdness. An earlier version of this article misstated the date of Logans death. She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. /u/LyonPirkey, thanks for the article. Also the point about girls being dumped in places frequented by hunters. Theyre seeing whatever they want to see in him. Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. I dont know why more people arent talking about this connection. I generally accept it however because to assume otherwise would be to assume that the entire police force and townsfolk who were in the search party waited longer than what made sense. We have no idea. The agent goes on to say I believe there is probable cause to believe that RONALD LOGAN has committed the crime of murder and evidence of that can be found on RONALD LOGANS property.. I can see it from a teenager or maybe a n emotionally stunted 20+ guy, but this is a middle aged man! Instead he was with the team that found the bodies. Why would they do that? Its like he wants these two tween girls on the cusp of womanhood to remain forever children and sexually innocent and so leaves them surrounded by a childs toys, both as a kind of apology to them, as well as way to announce to the world that he has effectively preserved them as children forever. However, the agent said, These statements were found to be factually false and intentionally designed to deceive LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers).. Ive heard that when a killer feels something for his victim, hes more likely to care for the body, for example, wrap it in a blanket to protect it from the elements, etc. Citizens? Thats how he knew they were going to be there at that date and time. Then they say they had planned to reopen it much earlier in the AM but that the fog on the 14th made it very difficult to see so they didnt restart the search party until 9 AM. They had embarked on an afternoon hike the day before their discovery. Still, the voice of the suspected. It looks like a stuffed holiday (Christmas) Tweety bird to me. That should at least tell us something. This is apparently all correct! If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. "As Doug Carter said that earlier, if you recall. Allen is being held at the White County jail without bond and has hearing dates scheduled for January and March 2023. But our understanding is she never showed up, and there was no spare set in the first place, so she had nothing to bring him! This is still a very ongoing investigation, McLeland said. He has not been charged or accused of any wrongdoing in the deaths of Abby and Libby. During a search of Allen's home on Oct. 13, 2022, officers found knives and guns, including a "Sig Sauer, Model P226, .40-caliber pistol," the probable cause affidavit said. Recently in the People Magazine Investigates episode on Delphi, Carter says People need to let us handle this case, let what we saw that day eat away at us like it does. They saw something horrendous that day. I am very curious to know what you think people are getting wrong as to Chadwells behavior and videos (both are which are undeniably creepy). If not and it is him, did he know who THEY were? One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the haunting cell phone and social-media clues the girls left behind. Lot of men his age talk like that about women. He actually thinks women are going for bad men and leaving nice guys and good men like him alone. We have people in the police who talk to us. The agent said Logan claimed someone drove him to an aquarium store in Lafayette on the afternoon of February 13 at the time the girls disappeared. He loves the outdoors, but for all his pictures of creeks, bridges, and tents, I havent seen any camo-wearing, rifle-carrying hunting pics that are standard for the FB pages of small town guys who hunt. omygosh what a shame! Most compelling is the tattoo of what is clearly Libbys face with two bones and a skull framing it. Thanks for your response: appreciate that. Either he went there to hunt or he was set off by their rudeness and then, enraged, decided to teach them a lesson, Libby in particular. The arrest of Allen comes nearly six years after Libby and Abby were murdered. Investigators were seeking a judges permission to search the propertyof Ronald Logan, who owned the land where the two girls were found dead. Police have quizzed Kegan Kline over his correspondences with Libby German, a transcript leaked by Murder Sheet earlier this year revealed. Not unless they were in a relationship for 2+ years and he got a tattoo of her, which I find unlikely, as Libby would only have been about 13/14 back in 2015/2016. You disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected to what? Please correct me if you know otherwise. If thats the case, wouldnt you think they would have been noticed the first day during the search? I do not understand the part about the CSI guy. Delphi murders:Review the case through 5 years of reporting Initially, the media filed a motion to intervene in November, requesting the court to unseal Allen's probable cause affidavit, his . But get this. Delphi murders investigation timeline: Review the case through 5 years of reporting. DELPHI, Ind. Keeping the documents secret only heightens the public's curiosity about the case, Rozzi said. To say that all of the details intertwined with so many different people and relationships is complex would be an understatement. Initial searches of the area didn't turn up the girls and local law enforcement halted the search at dark, picking it up the following morning. The investigation is ongoing and open, various authorities reiterated during the news conference. Our goal is to find anybody else involved in this heinous crime. Previously:'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP. Carter added the probable cause affidavit remains sealed. Ive heard he was not on the other side of the creek at all. Only a few seconds have been made public. Love your writing and insights. Were not. The superintendent reminded those attending and listening remotely to the press conference to continue sending any information related to the case about Allen or any other individual to the tip line set up years ago: Call 1-844-459-5786; or email abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. That is very interesting. Clear as day. Its just conjecture," he said in rebuttal to McLeland's argument. As for McLeland's concern for the safety of the witnesses, Rozzi said, I havent heard, nor have I seen in the evidence presented, any actionable threats.. Liberty, who went by Libby, and Abigail, who went by Abby, went for a hike along the Monon High Bridge on Feb. 13, 2017. How many individuals were involved in the initial search? Because the conditions of two men being alone with each other and out of sight of others for a significant period of time are pretty narrow. We must trust their sources and investigative techniques. 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